DARWIN

Why didnt these idiots leave New Orleans before the hurricane? Darwin Maybe? I love hurricanes they make me a bunch of money...ok i am an asshole but before you cast stones i lost a bunch of shit last year including my roof. So fuck off if you want to bash my greed. twisted

Why would they? shock They can't move their houses, can they?

stupid americans

either

- they are stupid
- they couldn't afford to get out

[quote6be08935a1="KIWI_KiLLaHerTz"]stupid americans[/quote6be08935a1]

Agreed ;)

[quote465af1a624="_FSF_Rushae"][quote465af1a624="KIWI_KiLLaHerTz"]stupid americans[/quote465af1a624]

Agreed ;)[/quote465af1a624]
Hey.... evil

well...they aint the smartest nation in the world...just look at who they chose as president.

[quoteaa164935e8="[ElitE]_RuNe"]well...they aint the smartest nation in the world...just look at who they chose as president.[/quoteaa164935e8]

If America isnt a very "smart" nation then why is america the most powerful and richest country in the world? and it takes all of europe to team up so they can compete with america LOL!

Ehm fuxor as you may know, america is made up out of several states P It's not like its a country as large as france competing with the whole of europe P

Pwned, sorry dive, didnt mean u )

[quote7006dd446b]If America isnt a very "smart" nation then why is america the most powerful and richest country in the world? and it takes all of europe to team up so they can compete with america LOL![/quote7006dd446b]
Well could you expect France, a nation of 60 million people, to compete against America?

America is known for her citizen's hard work - not for their intelligence! lol

When you say 'richest country in the world' do you mean GDP? GDP Per Capita? Wealth can be measured in many ways. Europeans have safety-net welfare to fall back onto. Europeans have much more leisure time than Americans who work non-stop.

Europeans don't have to worry about healthcare costs or any costs for education.

I've been to America. My experience is that life is better in Europe. wink

Long live the welfare state, and long live the European Social Model! idea

To add to that... crime in Europe is much lower than in the US. 1% of the US population are in prison.

Does Europe need capital punishment to keep crime low? No! Because we have respect for human rights when it comes to criminal justice.

Millions of Americans live in absolute poverty. Europeans always have state welfare to fall back onto for when times get hard.

My advice to America is to scale down your $400bn 'defence' budget and spend that money more wisely.

8)

There's no free lunch. You think your social model is free? Ever wonder why everything in Europe costs so much more than in the US (and it's not just the strong euro). You name it, it's more expensive--food, energy, tech...I'll keep my tax money and spend it the way *I* see fit, thank you very much.

Moreover, look at all the current battles in all the European countries, and you'll see that they're trying to become *more* like the US, not more socialist. The big cogs of Europe, Germany and France, are having that debate right now--Germany with its Agenda 2010 and even (gasp) France with the "American" Sarkozy on the horizon for 2007. They've not grown for years and their unemployment is twice as high as in the US. And of course Blair in Britian hasn't exactly rolled back Thatcher's reforms even though he's technically in Labour. They all realize that having artificial structural rigidity in your economy is a terrible thing if you want to compete with other countries around the world.

Furthermore, fux has a point...the GDP of the Euro-area and the US are comparable--but the US has less than half the population.

Of course, the US can hardly rest on its laurels, because having visited different parts of Asia in the past few years (I'm in Taipei right now), it's evident where the *real* growth in the future will be...

[quotee560bbc6b7]Furthermore, fux has a point...the GDP of the Euro-area and the US are comparable--but the US has less than half the population. [/quotee560bbc6b7]
I don't think so. The EU does have a larger population than the US but not by as much as you are suggesting.

The EU has a population, taking into account recent enlargement to 25 member states, of approximately 450 million people. The US population is just under 300 million people.

[quotee560bbc6b7]Moreover, look at all the current battles in all the European countries, and you'll see that they're trying to become *more* like the US[/quotee560bbc6b7]
Economic reforms are taking place but that doesn't mean we're abandoning our social model. We're adapting the European Social Model to meet the new challenges of the 21st century, such as globalisation. You'll never see the economies of Europe being run like the US economy, we're proud of our welfare states.


[quotee560bbc6b7]I'll keep my tax money and spend it the way *I* see fit, thank you very much.[/quotee560bbc6b7]
That shows how individualist and self-driven American society is today.

hmmm...I'm glad u guys dont took my joke seriouslyO

Well if you count all of Europe, it is more than twice as populous as the US (nearing 700 million vs. nearing 300 million).

And if you count just the EU 25, it's still more than 50% more. And the EU GDP per capita is definitely not 50% more than the US GDP per capita. Hell, even the richest big states (i.e. Germany) don't have as much GDP per capita (US $40k Britain/Germany/France $30k).

There's no such thing as free welfare. I'm not saying there should be no welfare, but those longer vacations and increasingly unsustainable unemployment premiums come directly out of your pocket.

GDP is it? This is what you deem your success upon. The ability to extract maximum profit from your population and environment.

You wanna talk about sustainability in the same paragraph....

My personal taxes are 20%. I do not need medical cover, educational savings, employment insurance or mental health cover. my 20% taxes covers all of it.

Our only problem in our economy right now is the price of gas - who can we blame for this hmmm?

We also don't have reactors all through our country because it's more 'profitable' for power companies to use them.

Money is shit. And so are the people who think it means everything.

200 bn defense lol. What a bunch of afraid mofos you must be.

America is a way better place to live. Period. kkthx. and not to mention girls shave and bathe here kkthxbye.

Oh btw I found these links that shows that the EU has about double the population of the US yet it still cant pass the US in GDP ha!. gg.

http//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html

http//www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html

Lol Fux... you just say 'America is best' and you have virtually no proof to back it up. Are you some kind of chief economist? I very much doubt it.

Why get your information from the CIA? The CIA is bound to be biased like the whole US media complex. Why not get the information from the World Bank or the IMF?

The World Bank site has some of the most up to date information, I suggest you take a look.

Rambozo talks about gas prices being high, have you lot been to Britain? A huge proportion of US oil consumption goes towards your huge cars. Why have them? What's more important the environment or the already well-massaged American ego?

EU GDP Per Capita will obviously be lower than that of the US. The 15 new accession states are very poor compared to Western European standards.

Sims talks about the European welfare states being unsustainable. The American system of anarcho-Capitalism is the most unsustainable system in history.

This American anarcho-Capitalist system causes huge problems that are not just limited to within America's borders. For example

- Global warming & the environment will ultimately lead to our planet being destroyed. Bush refuses to sign Kyoto because of his big business friends.
- Crime rates are high in the US. 1% of Americans are in prison.
- The greed that the US economic system has inflicted upon it's citizens make them super-hungry for profit - like Rambozo said. This is like a vicious circle that's impossible to break.
- The greed then leads to invasions of oil-rich nations, such as Iraq, which contributes towards global instability.

Britain's GDP Per Capita is now higher than all the other large EU nations - Germany, France, Italy & Spain.

Let me also point out that the EU has a trade surplus whilst the US is tied down with massive trade AND budget deficits.

How many EU citizens are living on less than $1 a day? How many Americans are living on less than $1 a day? Tell me that Fux. roll

[quote9a1f5b51aa]The ability to extract maximum profit from your population and environment.[/quote9a1f5b51aa]

You must be in an alternate universe if you think that publicly held European/Asian/etc. corporations aren't operated for profit as well.

[quote9a1f5b51aa]Our only problem in our economy right now is the price of gas - who can we blame for this hmmm?[/quote9a1f5b51aa]

I would argue that the price of gas is more of a demand-side shock because of the monstrous growth of China as an oil consumer (2nd to the US now and getting bigger by the day). This is why oil prices at over $70 a barrel still haven't KO'd the world's economy. Normally you would expect it to. Of course, you could just be naive and blame it on whatever the hell you'd like.

[quote9a1f5b51aa]My personal taxes are 20%. I do not need medical cover, educational savings, employment insurance or mental health cover. my 20% taxes covers all of it.[/quote9a1f5b51aa]

I don't follow NZ politics, but I seriously doubt your taxes cover all your services. Someone in a higher wage bracket is subsidizing your services. In other words, the overall NZ tax rate is over 20%, you can be sure of that. How much they are subsidizing I'm not sure because I've not read much about NZ, even in magazines like The Economist (there's more press about Australia, naturally, in that region). Regardless, progressive income tax systems exist in most countries (including the US and mos EU countries), and without hard numbers it's hard to say who is getting the better end of the deal.

[quote9a1f5b51aa]We also don't have reactors all through our country because it's more 'profitable' for power companies to use them. [/quote9a1f5b51aa]

Uh? I'd say Americans have an irrational fear of nuclear power. Have you ever visited? The much-more socialist France and Japan have many, many, many, many, many, many more nuclear reactors. And I actually don't think that is such a bad thing if that's what's efficient and/or sustainable...that's one fear that Americans will have to get over.

[quote9a1f5b51aa]EU GDP Per Capita will obviously be lower than that of the US. The 15 new accession states are very poor compared to Western European standards.[/quote9a1f5b51aa]

I quoted GDP for Germany, France, and Britain. If you threw in the whole EU it'd be a lot worse. GDP per capita even in Britain is 25% less.

[quote9a1f5b51aa]American anarcho-Capitalist[/quote9a1f5b51aa]

WTF is "anarcho-Capitalism"? Now, I know this site is called Anarchy Unleashed, but you may need to check your definition of anarchy. If you don't know what you're talking about, stop spewing BS.

[quote9a1f5b51aa]"Greed leads to invasions of oil-rich nations, such as Iraq, which contributes towards global instability"[/quote9a1f5b51aa]

Well I definitely was not for that invasion, but *if* you believed there were WMD in Iraq, which many foreign diplomats believed (go read a real journal, i.e. foreign affairs to see what diplomats around the world thought), the case for Iraq wasn't as stupid as you might think. Well, ask your own Prime Minister about that...

I've never said the US is the best place in the world. I'm just merely countering the BS spewed by others in the thread about the superiority of their "system"...you can have what you want, but you had better accept that you earn 1/4 to 1/2 as much and contribute more to your government as well. And hey, if that's what you want, then I'm not going to stop you. Me, I'd rather have a smaller government (in all senses--defense spending too. And no more Christian conservative social policies) and let the people figure out what to do with their money themselves.

[quotec342e47352]WTF is "anarcho-Capitalism"? Now, I know this site is called Anarchy Unleashed, but you may need to check your definition of anarchy. If you don't know what you're talking about, stop spewing BS.[/quotec342e47352]

Man, it looks like you're the one that doesn't have a clue what you're talking about. Seriously, haven't you heard of that term before?

If you don't understand a term then don't blame me, go and look it up! Anarcho-Capitalism is a term largely used around the world today. I study Politics and Economics so don't say it's "BS". Anarcho-Capitalism, put simply, is economic anarchy with very little, or zero, state intervention. Therefore businesses can do what they please - such as pollute - and the poor are allowed to get poorer.

[quotec342e47352]I quoted GDP for Germany, France, and Britain. If you threw in the whole EU it'd be a lot worse. GDP per capita even in Britain is 25% less.[/quotec342e47352]
Did I say that France, Germany and Britain have a higher GDP Per Capita than the US? No I didn't. A large part of the reason that Europe has a lower GDP Per Capita than the US is because Europeans tend to work less hours - and therefore are less productive. Our welfare states also have an impact and in some cases can discourage work.

But I'd rather stick with the European Social Model myself. GDP Per Capita, in my opinion, is a pretty rubbish measure of living standards. For example, do Europeans or Americans have more leisure time?

[quotec342e47352]...you can have what you want, but you had better accept that you earn 1/4 to 1/2 as much and contribute more to your government as well. And hey, if that's what you want, then I'm not going to stop you. [/quotec342e47352] We don't earn '1/4 to 1/2 as much' as you do. Who are you referring to Britain or Slovakia?

It might be worth pointing out that the recent economic reforms, carried out by the German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder (A leftist Social Democrat) have caused huge protests around Germany - and that's with a left-of-centre leader. Europeans are happy with their welfare states and I doubt we'd want to substitute our problems with the ones you have in America.

wow...Looks like my darwin theory missed a few of you. Here comes the arrogant american to set you straight. Here are a few undeniable facts
1. America is the most prosperous nation in the history of civilization.
2. America is the most industrious nation in the history pf civilization...before u assholes debate that think of what is powering your ability to respond... electricity, computers, and the internet. Internet might be a stretch but we proliferated it.
3. America is the most militarily powerful nation in the history of civilization.

I love you Europeans and Australians but come on...How 'bout just a little respect thrown to the stars and stripes. Without America Europeans would be living under a despotic rule...either communist or some type of monarchy/dictatorship. Australia is a little more difficult to surmize...possibly a jap colony (maybe but that is a stretch) certainly not as free as they are today.

So next time you guys want to bash the states how 'bout you do so with the thankfulness that maybe if not for us you couldn't even speak your mind freely. All of that on about 16 beers, I am sure i can make more sense of my argument if i need to if anyine disagrees with what I have written.

[quote27d9344da9="Militant"][quote27d9344da9]WTF is "anarcho-Capitalism"? Now, I know this site is called Anarchy Unleashed, but you may need to check your definition of anarchy. If you don't know what you're talking about, stop spewing BS.[/quote27d9344da9]

Man, it looks like you're the one that doesn't have a clue what you're talking about. Seriously, haven't you heard of that term before?

If you don't understand a term then don't blame me, go and look it up! Anarcho-Capitalism is a term largely used around the world today. I study Politics and Economics so don't say it's "BS". Anarcho-Capitalism, put simply, is economic anarchy with very little, or zero, state intervention. Therefore businesses can do what they please - such as pollute - and the poor are allowed to get poorer.

[quote27d9344da9]I quoted GDP for Germany, France, and Britain. If you threw in the whole EU it'd be a lot worse. GDP per capita even in Britain is 25% less.[/quote27d9344da9]
Did I say that France, Germany and Britain have a higher GDP Per Capita than the US? No I didn't. A large part of the reason that Europe has a lower GDP Per Capita than the US is because Europeans tend to work less hours - and therefore are less productive. Our welfare states also have an impact and in some cases can discourage work.

But I'd rather stick with the European Social Model myself. GDP Per Capita, in my opinion, is a pretty rubbish measure of living standards. For example, do Europeans or Americans have more leisure time?

[quote27d9344da9]...you can have what you want, but you had better accept that you earn 1/4 to 1/2 as much and contribute more to your government as well. And hey, if that's what you want, then I'm not going to stop you. [/quote27d9344da9] We don't earn '1/4 to 1/2 as much' as you do. Who are you referring to Britain or Slovakia?

It might be worth pointing out that the recent economic reforms, carried out by the German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder (A leftist Social Democrat) have caused huge protests around Germany - and that's with a left-of-centre leader. Europeans are happy with their welfare states and I doubt we'd want to substitute our problems with the ones you have in America.[/quote27d9344da9]


OMFG....Ban this commie. If i wanted to be a marxian I would subscribe to how to kill myself magazine. I have a name and a theory for you. ADAM SMITH. I love lassaiz faire. The invisible hand theory works great except when governments get involved as you espouse. If you can't pull yourself up you deserve to live the way you do. I wasn't born with a silver spoon but I am doing fine...It is called hard work and education. No gimmies in the USA except by those who are retarded (welfare).

Holy shit. Are you saying markets in America have little or no government intervention? Maybe only to Europeans. Personally, I'd rather have less government intervention but there's far from little here in the US...

Anarcho-capitalism...rofl...

agreed...but we have the least amount of government interference. I do not know how this thread materialized into this type of debate. The bottom line is the people who did not leave New Orleans are dumb or very poor...either way who cares?

Or disabled.

As to who cares, I do. Part of why I pay taxes is for relief efforts like this.

Bongs,

I've heard that claim hundreds of times about how Europeans would be living under a Nazi dictatorship without the good old Yanks. It's simply not true.

Bongs is just one example of the arrogance that the Americans employ. It makes me feel sorry for the ordinary American who has to put up with the reputation that comes with it.

[quote672145ac8b]3. America is the most militarily powerful nation in the history of civilization.[/quote672145ac8b] Bongs, I'm sorry to prove you wrong, but the Romans were actually more powerful than the Americans - for their time.

Britain was actually more powerful, economically, during the industrial revolution years than America is today.

So, don't let your arrogance distort the facts. 8)

[quote672145ac8b]OMFG....Ban this commie. If i wanted to be a marxian I would subscribe to how to kill myself magazine. [/quote672145ac8b] Just another example of your immaturity.

[quote672145ac8b]It is called hard work and education. No gimmies in the USA except by those who are retarded (welfare).[/quote672145ac8b] You seriously are sick in the head. What about the disabled that are entitled to welfare benefits? Are you saying they're "retarded"? If you were disabled then you'd have a different way of thinking. You really are sick!

[quote672145ac8b]The bottom line is the people who did not leave New Orleans are dumb or very poor...either way who cares?[/quote672145ac8b] Lol, your immaturity proceeds you. How old are you? Go and start puberty. roll

Just one last point... I am not a Marxist in any way. I am a centrist and have moderate political, economic and social views. 8)

anarcho-capitlism... jeez give me a break

[quoteb1cd27477a]If you don't understand a term then don't blame me, go and look it up! Anarcho-Capitalism is a term largely used around the world today. I study Politics and Economics so don't say it's "BS". Anarcho-Capitalism, put simply, is economic anarchy with very little, or zero, state intervention. Therefore businesses can do what they please - such as pollute - and the poor are allowed to get poorer.[/quoteb1cd27477a]

Actually, thats just absolute capitilism, I looked up anarchy and capitilisms' definitions just to make sure, that term is a bunch of horse shit. Don't sugar-coat or give it some other stupid terms that make you feel smart... if you really want to know what the u.s capitilist system is about look at this pic

STFU plz k thx

Like anyone cares, if youve got a good life in america its okay, if you have a good life in europe its okay...

We all know asia is going to be a very very strong economic continent in the future, probably stronger than both america and europe

Ah, you can always count on this 'Not Important' guy to throw his hand bag around.

Not Important, I doubt anyone would listen to you. Anarcho-Capitalism is a term that is widely used today - like it or not.

I'm surprised so few of you have heard of the term 'anarcho-Capitalism'. Then 'Not Important' has the nerve to lecture me when he cannot even spell 'Capitalism' correctly. lol

God help him/it. twisted

norway has been judged to be the best country in the world to live in for the last 5 years so gg fux plz stfu. !

Sweden has been second for a number of years too. Both are European countries. 8)

Sweden has some of the highest tax rates in the world and look at the prosperity the Swedes enjoy. 8)

Oh and before anybody tries to dispute those facts... they are from the UN's Human Development Index (HDI) reports. 8)

[quotece30fdedfc="[ElitE]_RuNe"]well...they aint the smartest nation in the world...just look at who they chose as president.[/quotece30fdedfc]
[ice30fdedfc]Yeah, sure, let's assume that the entire US population is stupid because the elected president's political position is contrary to ours....[/ice30fdedfc]

Ehh, no. Doesn't work. ? |

uhm...still I'm glad ppl dont took my joke serious...

Joke? Ehh, I missed the humor. ?

Um. Lets see here. WWI and WWII were won becuz US joined. isnt this true? So I came to find out in my history classes. Also doesnt it take all of europe to join up to compete against the US I.E. teh euro ^_^. also militant you said something about our big ass cars? I truely believe bigger is better =D D xoxo.

[quote34d678b0da]Um. Lets see here. WWI and WWII were won becuz US joined. isnt this true? So I came to find out in my history classes.[/quote34d678b0da] From your History classes? Enough said!

[quote34d678b0da]Also doesnt it take all of europe to join up to compete against the US I.E. teh euro ^_^. [/quote34d678b0da] European political and economic integration is not just about competing with the US. The Euro was designed to boost trade within the EU itself - eliminating exchange rate fluctuations within the Eurozone and cutting costs for businesses.

[quote34d678b0da]also militant you said something about our big ass cars? I truely believe bigger is better =D[/quote34d678b0da]
Well you would, size means a lot to Yanks. As long as the Americans are happy who cares about the environment, oil prices, etc? wink

idea Why don't you go and have a cuppa gasoline? lol

Let me repeat anarcho-capitalism is a bullshit term. I read domestic and foreign magazines all the time and have never come across such a bullshit term. And furthermore, if you think America is under anarchy, you must have your head examined.

Anyway, if any magazine should talk about anarcho-capitalism if it actually exists, it should be The Economist. After all, it's British and very worldly. And I've been a regular reader since god knows when and have never seen such bullshit (because if I did, I would have canceled my subscription). Just for your edification, I did a search

Search results for

anarcho-capitalism in Economist.com

Search did not return any results for anarcho-capitalism, please try again with a different term.

In my opinion, if it's not in the Economist, then it's just some bullshit term you or one of your philosophy propoganda sites made up. Remember, I'm quoting a fucking BRITISH magazine here, probably the most popular British news magazine in the world. Anarcho-capitalism in my mind is just something some self-important philosopher coined to describe already-existing notions of government and economics, like other garbage philosophies (i.e. Objectivism). I mean, if you want to call it anything, call it Libertarianism...except, the US is definitely NOT libertarian in any way.

From Wikipedia, which catalogs all the deviant and weird stuff

Anarcho-capitalism is a philosophy based on the idea of individual sovereignty (or "self-ownership"), an unlimited right to private property, and a prohibition against initiatory coercion and fraud, with contracts between sovereign individuals being the basis of law. From this is derived a rejection of the state (an entity claiming a territorial monopoly on the use of force) and the embrace of absolute laissez-faire capitalism. Anarcho-capitalists would protect individual liberty and property by replacing a government monopoly that is involuntarily funded through taxation, with private and competing businesses.

From a first pass you can see the America does not fit much of the definition, mostly with the anarchist part of it. For example Americans do not reject the state, they are merely suspicious of it. Contract law is not the basis of US law (i.e., you can create contracts which are illegal even if two sovereign individuals agree to the terms of it nowhere in the US can we create a conctract selling me to you as a slave, in many states employers cannot create contracts with employees that contain non-compete clauses...)--the government places many restrictions on contract law. As the rest of the premise is based on these principles, you can pretty much throw away the rest of the argument...although we do embrace pretty free markets in the US. And that, in my mind, is a big reason for the US's past and continued success.

You could definitely say that World War I was ended by the Americans--why do you think Wilson was looked upon by such a hero on the continent? WWII probably would have ended without US troops with Russian troops all over Europe. I don't know if swapping Hitler for Stalin would be such an upgrade, though...

[quotedaf1e70d58="Militant"][quotedaf1e70d58]Um. Lets see here. WWI and WWII were won becuz US joined. isnt this true? So I came to find out in my history classes.[/quotedaf1e70d58] From your History classes? Enough said!
[/quotedaf1e70d58]

I'd really like to know how the Allied powers would have defeated Germany in World War I without the help of the United States? The German offensive in 1918 would almost undoubtedly have been successful without the help of the American Expeditionary Force and the huge manpower boost provided to the Allies. The new tactics used by the Germans during the offensive were extremely successful against the trenches, and the line on the western front was actually pushed forward nearly 120 miles, causing thousands to flee Paris. Without the help of the Americans, Ludendorff's offensive in 1918 would have won the Germans the war. To argue otherwise is an insult to anyone with even the slightest knowledge of World War I, and your attempts at revisionism really allow your anti-americanism to shine through.

BTW I'm glad to find another fan of the economist here in the RON community.

[quote8524b6b7a7="Sicilian"][quote8524b6b7a7="Militant"][quote8524b6b7a7]Um. Lets see here. WWI and WWII were won becuz US joined. isnt this true? So I came to find out in my history classes.[/quote8524b6b7a7] From your History classes? Enough said!
[/quote8524b6b7a7]

I'd really like to know how the Allied powers would have defeated Germany in World War I without the help of the United States? The German offensive in 1918 would almost undoubtedly have been successful without the help of the American Expeditionary Force and the huge manpower boost provided to the Allies. The new tactics used by the Germans during the offensive were extremely successful against the trenches, and the line on the western front was actually pushed forward nearly 120 miles, causing thousands to flee Paris. Without the help of the Americans, Ludendorff's offensive in 1918 would have won the Germans the war. To argue otherwise is an insult to anyone with even the slightest knowledge of World War I, and your attempts at revisionism really allow your anti-americanism to shine through.[/quote8524b6b7a7]

Ya! and not to forget WWII where france got owned and germany was gonna own the brits in any second and the japanese were owning asia then here comes the US to save the day. I still cant get into my mind why so many people hate the US even tho the US has given so much to the world IMO. I dont hate Europeans either they make some pretty nice cars =D.

[quote660f960b37="[ElitE]_RuNe"]norway has been judged to be the best country in the world to live in for the last 5 years so gg fux plz stfu. ![/quote660f960b37]

Bull fecking shit. And your comment on page 1 about the President is also very stupid as well.

I do think what has happened in New Orleans is a tragedy and hope all is well for everyone there but this whole anarcho-capitalism thing is horseshit too.. roll

The hurricane hitting new orleans was a tragedy. what happened afterwards was a disgrace.

america, 49

80% of the americans think the netherlands is a province somewhere in russia P

(says more about our country than about the americans inteligence, but i infact know that "texas" isnt a hamburger chain)

Lol, you guys believe what the hell you want about 'anarcho-Capitalism'. I've heard and read it many times from different sources... including my Politics text books at college.

Sims. Anarcho-Capitalism does NOT mean total social anarchy around the US. Anarcho-Capitalism is exactly that... Capitalism in anarchy - I know it's a difficult concept to grasp. lol

When you talk about 'anarcho-Capitalism' you have to understand that there are two dimensions... a social dimension and an economic one.

Anarcho-Capitalism is referring to ONLY the economic dimension. So you can still have your much-loved death penalty when your country is 'anarcho-Capitalist'.

Anarcho-Capitalism is strictly economic, forget the social dimension!

Let me also dispute another claim. Sicilian says I'm 'anti-American' which is completely false. I was waiting for that card to be played though. lol

Fuxor, Germany wouldn't have defeated Britain in WW2. Look at the Battle of Britain for instance. P

Stumpy says that Norway being the best place to live in the world is 'bullshit'. Stumpy let me remind you that the UN published that fact. Sorry to disappoint you. wink

Stumpy... don't let your American ego distort the facts. wink

[quotef52e6c47f3]80% of the americans think the netherlands is a province somewhere in russia[/quotef52e6c47f3]
That says quite a lot about their arrogance.

GG

I value the UK's close relationship with the USA. I think the US is a great country with great people.

There are just certain things about the US in which I disagree. There are many things in Europe which I also disagree about - such as labour regulation, minimum working weeks & massive welfare handouts. Another thing I dislike about Europe is the high tax rates that are present here - not so much in the UK.

I know that US companies have made a great contribution to life around the globe. I love Microsoft, Coca-Cola, Boeing and many other huge American companies. I think it's great that in American society nobody is held back by high taxes, and the fact that everybody has the opportunity to reach their full potential.

I would like a reformed European Union which has learnt lessons from the US. Labour regulation should go for instance.

The EU should spend more on research and development to boost productivity, etc. The EU should scrap the maximum amount of hours that it's citizens are aloud to work.

I see globalisation as an opportunity, not a threat. Therefore I'm pro-globalisation.

Well, why do you think I was saying the current European social model was unsustainable? Simple math tells you that the 35 hour work weeks in France, massive unemployment insurance, etc. just cannot work forever...

I know what you're saying Sims. A social model that does include a 35 hour working week is unsustainable. That's why I was saying we have to adapt the European Social Model to meet the new challenges of the 21st century - globalisation.

State welfare should be about providing a safety net. Like Blair has said... labour regulation may save some jobs at present but that's at the expense of many jobs in the future.

Social justice, economic dynamism and globalisation CAN go hand in hand. 8)

[quotef35d54e7e2="Beertender"]80% of the americans think the netherlands is a province somewhere in russia P

(says more about our country than about the americans inteligence, but i infact know that "texas" isnt a hamburger chain)[/quotef35d54e7e2]
That's funny, I'm an American and I've never been quizzed on the location of the Netherlands for a national survey.... Also funny how they came up with a nice multiple of 10. Of course, 75% of statistics are made up on the spot.... ?

Here's how it goes An anti-american like yourself sets up a poll on his little personal website asking "Where is the Netherlands?" Five visitors vote. Four of the five say the netherlands is in Russia because it is the most humorous option. Simple as that.

[quotef08290e12d]in American society nobody is held back by high taxes[/quotef08290e12d]

??? I pay somewhere around 30-50% of my gross income when you include federal & state taxes. wtf, how much of your earnings does the gov. take?

Sounds like to me Militant that you want to change the EU to be almost identical to the states. Other than the massive defenvse budget here of course / (which somewhere around 49% of us disagree w/ anyway roll)

Militant, I don't know who you are but you are fairly stupid.

To say Norway is greatest place to live is not "fact" its pure opinion and I have my opinion as well as the UN and you do and everyone.

Mine will not change and I'm sure I wont change yours either so I wont even try.

And I dont have an "American ego" so maybe you should reconsider what words you type cuz ya make yourself look more of a shithead each post so please for everyones sake just die I mean stop posting. wink

Man this is all such bullcrap. Everyone knows that Canada is the best damn country in the world and the rest of you can just go take a flying leap into my beer keg. PARTY ON DOODS! chairfall buttrock

Goddamnit stfuplzkthx we just need a good pwning dictator!

Like all of you play ron, just 1 person bossing everyone around, just hope we get bird teh boomer though cause i wouldnt want to have an uber aggresive dictator trying to pwn all his neighboors ;(

Stumpy,

I'm not gonna argue with you... it's pretty clear you have issues. Fancy asking somebody to die, when you don't even know them. lol

Stumpy, for you to call somebody 'stupid' is rather ironic. You don't know shit about anything.

Somehow you know better than the UN's HDI do you? I doubt it.

Go and be a good little boy and play a game of RoN, after all you won't have any friends to play with will ya. 8)

Keyboards freaks... all mouth. shock

Ciao

that settles it.

Ok, this has devolved into just personal insults (for awhile it was actually interesting). Thread locked.

yeah, pity